Welcome everyone to the Craft & Draft podcast! We are so excited to bring you what we love, talking with you about workshop, literacy, writing, reading, and real world teaching.

As we are in the middle of our break, we wanted to reflect on student (and teacher) apathy. What causes it? How do you get over it? Is apathy something we can control as educators, or is it beyond our reach to mend?

Pam and Jacob share their perspectives, their experience with apathy in students and teachers, and why they ultimately believe teachers have the power to course correct someone who is apathetic.

All of that and more on this episode of Craft & Draft!

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